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Benefit

Benefit
Jethro Tull
Released April 20, 1970
Chrysalis 6400
Made in Canada
Gift from Kela Weber, April 2009.

Posted by peter on March 29, 2014 at 7.55pm in listening
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peter: The Listening Project welcomes Claire this evening, providing a new dimension of commentary and insight. She's a music major, we're a little intimidated, but she relies on us for stuff like food so it should be ok.
2014.03.29 at 8.00pm · link ·
jodi: I was raised on this record. So I am probably not going to be making fun of the music much tonight.
2014.03.29 at 8.00pm · link ·
claire: When I went to Vancouver with the band in grade 10 we tried to get into Shane Culnan's laptop and his password hint was "flute band" three guesses which band his password ended up being.
2014.03.29 at 8.01pm · link ·
peter: 60 days for just one night, is this the hotel california or something?
2014.03.29 at 8.02pm · link ·
jodi: Claire you just gave that boy's laptop password out to the whole internet.
2014.03.29 at 8.02pm · link ·
jodi: Pretty much my dad got this record and then he got my mom pregnant, so this is the first record we've listened to here that contains not one single surprise for me. I will try to listen with new ears but for that I need to run and mix a drink, hang on.
2014.03.29 at 8.04pm · link ·
claire: Stonger vocals in this one, less equal across the voices, I sense a bigger focus on lyrics.
2014.03.29 at 8.06pm · link ·
peter:
jodi: Pretty much my dad got this record and then he got my mom pregnant, so this is the first record we've listened to here that contains not one single surprise for me. I will try to listen with new ears but for that I need to run and mix a drink, hang on.

Don't you have an ex who used to play flute standing on one foot? I wonder what his laptop password is....
2014.03.29 at 8.07pm · link ·
jodi: My mom was pregnant with me, in case that's not clear.
2014.03.29 at 8.07pm · link ·
peter:
Claire Zimmerman: When I went to Vancouver with the band in grade 10 we tried to get into Shane Culnan's laptop and his password hint was "flute band" three guesses which band his password ended up being.

Someday when Shane is famous his publicity person will Google his name, find this site... and hack his laptop.
2014.03.29 at 8.08pm · link ·
jodi:
peter: Don't you have an ex who used to play flute standing on one foot? I wonder what his laptop password is....

Yeah. A jazz flautist. 23 years ago. I don't remember how he felt about Jethro Tull, I only remember jazz.
2014.03.29 at 8.09pm · link ·
claire:
peter: Someday when Shane is famous his publicity person will Google his name, find this site... and hack his laptop.

I would hope that by that time he won't have the same laptop password he had at 16, haha.
2014.03.29 at 8.11pm · link ·
jodi:
Claire Zimmerman: Stonger vocals in this one, less equal across the voices, I sense a bigger focus on lyrics.

Lyrics: SO IMPORTANT with these guys. And of course terribly wanky. Just wait until we listen to A Passion Play, hoo boy!
2014.03.29 at 8.11pm · link ·
claire: I knew he was gonna rhyme "glad" with "sad" I just knew it.
2014.03.29 at 8.12pm · link ·
jodi:
Claire Zimmerman: I knew he was gonna rhyme "glad" with "sad" I just knew it.

Take a walk in the park, there's a wind in the dark! Yikes.
2014.03.29 at 8.13pm · link ·
jodi: Can you cook, can you sew? Well, I don't wanna know.

Oh, Ian.
2014.03.29 at 8.13pm · link ·
claire: Interesting how they mix the voices to echo the guitar distortion.
2014.03.29 at 8.15pm · link ·
jodi: The engineer on this is Robin Black. I wish it was this Robin Black: linky-link
2014.03.29 at 8.16pm · link ·
jodi:
Claire Zimmerman: Interesting how they mix the voices to echo the guitar distortion.

Yes. They do that a lot.
2014.03.29 at 8.16pm · link ·
peter:
Claire Zimmerman: Stonger vocals in this one, less equal across the voices, I sense a bigger focus on lyrics.

Wait a second, is there a record playing? I've been trying to upload an avatar image for our newest member.
2014.03.29 at 8.17pm · link ·
jodi: "You can't borrow that 'cause that's for the races and doesn't grow on trees"

Sheesh it's 1970 and this guy is already a total dad. How old was he?
2014.03.29 at 8.17pm · link ·
peter:
jodi: My mom was pregnant with me, in case that's not clear.

I was not raised on Jethro Tull, or really on any other kind of music except Jesus Christ Superstar, The Beatles blue album, and Mama's Big Ones. Benefit, here, is pretty good, serious enough, but not as ridiculously bloated as much prog, Tull included. Finding it hard to make fun. We need a little man in the woods or something to lighten up the atmosphere. Maybe that Stone 'enge song is yet to come.
2014.03.29 at 8.18pm · link ·
jodi: Oh, I should have checked this earlier. Someone uploaded this entire album on youtube. You can listen along! Unfortunately we're in the last track of side 1 already. Go quick! YOUTUBE LINK
2014.03.29 at 8.20pm · link ·
claire: The more I listen to this the more I hear Gillingham's Be Thou My Vision, totally.
2014.03.29 at 8.23pm · link ·
jodi: Okay, side two, first track, "To Cry You A Song". This is the song we played this record for, because last night Claire performed in a concert with the University of Windsor Wind Ensemble, one of the pieces they performed sounded like a prog song and it was making Peter and I mental trying to figure out which. Not sure this is the only song it sounded like but it's one part of the jigsaw.
2014.03.29 at 8.24pm · link ·
jodi:
peter: We need a little man in the woods or something to lighten up the atmosphere. Maybe that Stone 'enge song is yet to come.

We have not yet made a second selection for tonight. We could delve earlier into the Tull discography and listen to that one with the collection of gnomes on the cover. And the band in gnome costumes.
2014.03.29 at 8.25pm · link ·
peter:
claire: The more I listen to this the more I hear Gillingham's Be Thou My Vision, totally.

If he did it consciously, it's brilliant. And by "it" I mean, of course, reference Jethro Tull in a composition based on an Irish hymn. And even if not, it's pretty neat. But I was pretty sure it was something else the Gillingham piece reminded me of. BTW we're talking about "To Cry You A Song."
2014.03.29 at 8.26pm · link ·
jodi:
claire: The more I listen to this the more I hear Gillingham's Be Thou My Vision, totally.

Thank you, now I don't have to go to the other room to look this up in the programme! David Gillingham, Be Thou My Vision.

During the piece, Peter and I were looking at each other and making "this is prog" faces then we checked the programme and discovered that: 1) the composer was born in 1947, which means that when he was 20, prog was happening, and 2) it was composed in 1999. So, well after.
2014.03.29 at 8.27pm · link ·
jodi: Thought I saw angels but I coulda been wrong.
2014.03.29 at 8.27pm · link ·
jodi: There was something else in the Gillingham piece but I would need to hear it again to figure it out.
2014.03.29 at 8.28pm · link ·
claire:
jodi: Thank you, now I don't have to go to the other room to look this up in the programme! David Gillingham, Be Thou My Vision. During the piece, Peter and I were looking at each other and making "this is prog" faces then we checked the programme and discovered that: 1) the composer was born in 1947, which means that when he was 20, prog was happening, and 2) it was composed in 1999. So, well after.

We could always pop down to Michigan U and ask him in person.
2014.03.29 at 8.29pm · link ·
jodi: Oh hey you can hear several performances of it on youtube! Thank you, internet.

YOUTUBE LINK for a search on the Gillingham piece
2014.03.29 at 8.30pm · link ·
peter: I can't imagine being a classically trained composer under the age of a hundred and not being influenced by whatever flavour of popular music most appeals to you. And tempted to slip in bits from your favourite band when no one is looking.
2014.03.29 at 8.30pm · link ·
jodi:
pzed: I can't imagine being a classically trained composer under the age of a hundred and not being influenced by whatever flavour of popular music most appeals to you. And tempted to slip in bits from your favourite band when no one is looking.

Like Andrew Lloyd Webber totally ripping off Pink Floyd, yo.
2014.03.29 at 8.30pm · link ·
claire:
jodi: Like Andrew Lloyd Webber totally ripping off Pink Floyd, yo.

I was just gonna mention that.
2014.03.29 at 8.31pm · link ·
peter:
jodi: Like Andrew Lloyd Webber totally ripping off Pink Floyd, yo.

Not like that at all -_-
2014.03.29 at 8.32pm · link ·
claire: This style of flute playing always makes me think of As It Happens.
2014.03.29 at 8.33pm · link ·
jodi:
peter: Not like that at all -_-

I especially like how you just made the same face at me from the other end of the chesterfield that you put in the emoji here.

So, not like that because Webber just did a straight ripoff and not a skilled homage, right?
2014.03.29 at 8.34pm · link ·
peter: This "Teacher" song also seems reminiscent. Can you teach me? Not sure I'm hot for this song. That's not where I wanna be. Ok that last one's a stretch. His car is warm inside!
2014.03.29 at 8.35pm · link ·
jodi:
claire: This style of flute playing always makes me think of As It Happens.

That is pretty much the only thing I want to learn how to play on my recorder. Which I haven't played in 15+ years but when I did, it was pretty much nothing but Sellenger's Round. (youtube link)
2014.03.29 at 8.36pm · link ·
claire:
jodi: That is pretty much the only thing I want to learn how to play on my recorder. Which I haven't played in 15+ years but when I did, it was pretty much nothing but Sellenger's Round. (youtube link)

The only thing I ever learnt to play on recorder was Pinball Wizard.
2014.03.29 at 8.37pm · link ·
jodi:
peter: This "Teacher" song also seems reminiscent. Can you teach me? Not sure I'm hot for this song. That's not where I wanna be. Ok that last one's a stretch. His car is warm inside!

Everybody screamed when I kissed the teacher.
2014.03.29 at 8.37pm · link ·
peter:
claire: This style of flute playing always makes me think of As It Happens.

More than this? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z4XLVn-yjU
2014.03.29 at 8.38pm · link ·
jodi: ABBA When I Kissed The Teacher LINK
2014.03.29 at 8.40pm · link ·
peter: "Sossity; you're a woman"—I actually thought he said "Society is broken". Bad, but not worse.
2014.03.29 at 8.41pm · link ·
claire: Not enough counterpoint.
2014.03.29 at 8.41pm · link ·
peter:
jodi: ABBA When I Kissed The Teacher LINK

When I was a kid I loved ABBA Meets the Phantom.
2014.03.29 at 8.42pm · link ·
jodi: Sossity You're A Woman has always been the weak link on this album for me, and now that I listen again that's kind of funny considering how much I loved, as a child, their much wankier later stuff like A Passion Play and Minstrel In The Gallery. Because this song sounds like the first hint of that other stuff that is coming.

The tambourine is a nice touch but not with the organ.
2014.03.29 at 8.42pm · link ·
peter:
claire: Not enough counterpoint.

Definitely too much needlepoint.
2014.03.29 at 8.42pm · link ·
jodi:
peter: When I was a kid I loved ABBA Meets the Phantom.

Of The Park?
2014.03.29 at 8.43pm · link ·
peter:
jodi: Sossity You're A Woman has always been the weak link on this album for me, and now that I listen again that's kind of funny considering how much I loved, as a child, their much wankier later stuff like A Passion Play and Minstrel In The Gallery. Because this song sounds like the first hint of that other stuff that is coming. The tambourine is a nice touch but not with the organ.

Funny how often the last song is the one that could and/or should have been left off. I'm looking at you, Wendell G
2014.03.29 at 8.43pm · link ·
jodi: We are going to play one more record tonight but we'll take a few minutes' break while Claire goes and picks one out from the shelves. Freshen your drinks and check in a couple of minutes for a new post to appear at the top of the page!
2014.03.29 at 8.47pm · link ·

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